In this episode, Ruth and Curt dive all the way into the deep end as they discuss attachment, attunement, and internal family systems. The pair also tackle the importance of embodiment in this healing work of suffering and durable hope. Curt also has some thoughtful questions for Ruth about the role suffering has played in her life and leadership. Over on Patreon, Curt introduces an exercise that combines the concept of internal family systems with a breathing practice.

This season, psychiatrist, speaker, and author Dr. Curt Thompson joins us to discuss suffering and how it is the place where durable and true hope is formed. We will be working through the ideas in his new book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope.

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Mentioned in the episode:

• The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope  by Curt Thompson
• The Soul of Shame: Retelling the Stories We Believe about Ourselves by Curt Thompson
• Anatomy of the Soul by Curt Thompson
• Season 16 Transforming Leadership:Managing Anxiety Within our Communities (Systems Theory Season of Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership.
• Boundaries for Your Soul by Alison Cook and Kimberly Miller

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This season will not follow the lectionary readings as closely as past seasons. Scripture for Lent 2024 can be found HERE. A digital version of our reflections for Lent resource, Lent A Season of Returning is available for purchase in our bookstore.

Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Breathe (Longing for You) from Lent Music in Solitude

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