Season 22

The Role of Suffering in the Spiritual Life

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Coinciding with the themes of Lent, psychiatrist and author Dr. Curt Thompson joins Ruth to discuss his newest book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope.

Season 22: Episode 1 | What’s Suffering Got to Do With It (Our Transformation)?

February 21, 2024

What does suffering have to do with our transformation? That is the question Ruth and Curt explore this season on the podcast! In today’s episode, they discuss how the Christian story is the only one that honors suffering, the difference between suffering and pain, what shame has to do with it, and how suffering differently…

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Season 22: Episode 2 | Compassion and Curiosity: Attuning to Different Parts of our Suffering

February 28, 2024

In this episode, Ruth and Curt dive all the way into the deep end as they discuss attachment, attunement, and internal family systems. The pair also tackle the importance of embodiment in this healing work of suffering and durable hope. Curt also has some thoughtful questions for Ruth about the role suffering has played in…

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Season 22: Episode 3 | What Does God’s Glory Have to Do With Our Suffering?

March 6, 2024

What does God’s glory have to do with our suffering? How do we wrestle with the crucifixion of Christ and the issue of atonement as it relates to suffering and God’s anger? How do we determine when we are the cause of our own suffering, when it’s someone else’s doing or when we are being…

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Season 22: Episode 4 | Hope in the Midst of Collective Suffering

March 13, 2024

This week we are taking a break from our conversations with Curt and his book The Deepest Place to talk about a different aspect of suffering: the communal, unmerited suffering that comes from oppression. Friend of the Transforming Center, Leo Ayala, is back with us to discuss this important topic. Leo and Ruth talk about…

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Season 22: Episode 5 | This is Hard! The Role of Endurance in Forming a Durable Hope

March 20, 2024

How does endurance or perseverance fit into this process of having a durable hope formed in us? How do we know we are making progress in this endeavor? What do we do with the stories we tell ourselves about the parts of us that are unlovable or unwantable, and how does bringing those parts before…

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Season 22: Episode 6 | A Hope That Does Not Disappoint

March 27, 2024

This week concludes our conversations with Curt Thompson, MD. Ruth and Curt examine what makes for a safe community. Why is it important to experience places of tension, hurt, and repair in the community? They also discuss the meaning of a hope that does not disappoint or put to shame. And as we turn our…

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Season 22: Episode 7 | Walking With Jesus in His Suffering During Holy Week

March 28, 2024

In this special episode, Ruth wraps up our season on suffering and the formation of hope and ushers us into the last few days of Holy Week. Holy Week allows us to practice true unity with Jesus, the “at-one-ment” she and Curt talked about this season. What does Jesus’ suffering mean for us- for our…

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Easter Monday | Transforming Post-Resurrection Encounters with Jesus (A Replay)

April 1, 2024

We are revisiting last year’s Easter Monday episode because we found the reflections to still be so timely with the themes we discussed during this season of the podcast. We hope it encourages and blesses you on this Easter Monday. He is Risen, indeed! Happy Easter Monday, friends. Today, Ruth helps us celebrate the Risen…

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