Season 22: Episode 3 | What Does God’s Glory Have to Do With Our Suffering?

What does God’s glory have to do with our suffering? How do we wrestle with the crucifixion of Christ and the issue of atonement as it relates to suffering and God’s anger? How do we determine when we are the cause of our own suffering, when it’s someone else’s doing or when we are being invited by God to join in the suffering of Jesus? Ruth and Curt tackle these questions and more in today’s episode. Over on Patreon, Curt guides us through a practice designed to help us discern the cause or invitation of an aspect of our own suffering and hold it with God.

This season, psychiatrist, speaker, and author Curt Thompson, MD joins us to discuss suffering and how it is the place where durable and true hope is formed. We will be working through the ideas in his new book, The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope.


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Listen to other episodes from Season 22 Access past podcast seasons

Mentioned in the episode:
The Deepest Place: Suffering and the Formation of Hope  by Curt Thompson
“God was in Christ reconciling all things to himself”—II Corinthians 5:18,19 (NJKV)

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This season will not follow the lectionary readings as closely as past seasons. Scripture for Lent 2024 can be found HERE. A digital version of our reflections for Lent resource, Lent: A Season of Returning is available for purchase in our bookstore.

Music Credit:
Kingdom Come by Aaron Niequist
Mourn from Lent Music in Solitude
Returning from Lent Music in Solitude

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